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Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:44 pm
by NB50clonePGO6GOD
Anyone know if using steel stik by jb weld is a good idea to repair missing chips from my front panels photos coming soon.


Fender crack:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B53YuU ... cslist_api

Corner sides of panal chips:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B53YuU ... cslist_api

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B53YuU ... cslist_api

Hot glue sounds obtuse or any other garbage like liquids.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:04 pm
by MrJumps
I would personaly use fibreglass and mold all new plastics and go way over board, which is why I convinced myself to leave it as is.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:11 pm
by NB50clonePGO6GOD
MrJumps wrote:I would personaly use fibreglass and mold all new plastics and go way over board, which is why I convinced myself to leave it as is.

Build my own panel sounds a bit hard just want these OEM Taiwan r.o.cs to look good paints flawless

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:47 pm
by Meloshameless
For just small chips, use bondo, then sand and re paint. Theres a reason its used in autp body repair. If its a large chip or hole, use drywall fiberglass tape behind the hole so the bondo has something to hold onto, then sand and re paint..

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:36 am
by NB50clonePGO6GOD
Rrr if I sand it might as well repaint the whole front end. No sense in driven naked raw.I'll probably change paint after going to dmv. Bad enough they want me to drive it there because its been off the roaster since 96.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:45 am
by patthesoundguy
You can always heat gun melt some mesh in from behind the cracks to hold them in place. I build in holes and missing pieces in plastic with super glue a lot of the time.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:15 pm
by NB50clonePGO6GOD
patthesoundguy wrote:You can always heat gun melt some mesh in from behind the cracks to hold them in place. I build in holes and missing pieces in plastic with super glue a lot of the time.

I heard there's a product like plastic dip and you use aluminium vent tape to form new or resin comes in mini containers or I can take a old piece of white abs shave it down to shape or melt it on foil tape.


I like the idea of melt to mold eventually I will be working on cone head lights like ruckas except I will have them molded in from the inside. There IS alot of space between the front panel and glove box.

Wish I could take the old 90s accord flip lights and mold it in the scooter lol

Since its a mutt might as well make a good one.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:22 pm
by 52much
:coolcruise: I have been repairing panels from 6 elites in prep for paint. Grind the back of the crack down to clean plastic. Cut fiberglass mat a little smaller than the grind spot. Mix 1/4 oz. resin with 5 drops of hardener. I mix in small 6 oz plastic cups with a Popsicle stick. Put the resin over the ground area with the Popsicle stick. Then put the mat over the resin. Put more resin over the mat to saturate. You can also smooth out with wax paper. Make sure the crack is perfectly aligned. I use small c clamp or alligator clips. After the back is set. You can work on the front.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:12 am
by motormike
52much wrote::coolcruise: I have been repairing panels from 6 elites in prep for paint. Grind the back of the crack down to clean plastic. Cut fiberglass mat a little smaller than the grind spot. Mix 1/4 oz. resin with 5 drops of hardener. I mix in small 6 oz plastic cups with a Popsicle stick. Put the resin over the ground area with the Popsicle stick. Then put the mat over the resin. Put more resin over the mat to saturate. You can also smooth out with wax paper. Make sure the crack is perfectly aligned. I use small c clamp or alligator clips. After the back is set. You can work on the front.
Very good comment 52much... :thumbwink:
Short, concise, complete.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:21 am
by NB50clonePGO6GOD
52much wrote::coolcruise: I have been repairing panels from 6 elites in prep for paint. Grind the back of the crack down to clean plastic. Cut fiberglass mat a little smaller than the grind spot. Mix 1/4 oz. resin with 5 drops of hardener. I mix in small 6 oz plastic cups with a Popsicle stick. Put the resin over the ground area with the Popsicle stick. Then put the mat over the resin. Put more resin over the mat to saturate. You can also smooth out with wax paper. Make sure the crack is perfectly aligned. I use small c clamp or alligator clips. After the back is set. You can work on the front.
Nice if you can send me s diy test piece clip that would help a lot I am auto body illiterate a bit memicking process via video would do best would i also need to tack the fiber glass? Almost ready i have to install a adjudtable cdi to pass as a scooter according to rcw email it says:





"From: Equipment

March 9, 2016



This is in response to your e-mail.



A scooter by definition in Washington State would be either considered a moped or a motorcycle depending on how fast the vehicle travels and would have to be licensed as such. If the vehicle has an engine size greater than 50 cc or travels more than 35 mph it should be licensed as a motorcycle. Motorcycles are allowed to travel on roadways with speed limits of greater than 35 mph but requires the operator of the vehicle to have a valid motorcycle endorsement in order to operate it. If it does not go 35 mph and has an engine less than 50 cc it would be considered a moped and the operator would have to have a valid drivers license to operate it.



If you seek clarification regarding the intent of the law or would like the law to be changed, you would need to contact your local legislator. Legislative contacts may be found online at http://app.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/. "



Thank you for your inquiry.

Sincerely,

Equipment








Sent: Wednesday March 09, 2016 10:53 AM
To: Equipment
Subject: Gas scooter laws on 50cc's

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:27 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Remember we are dealing with molded ABS plastic, not fiberglass. It has been my experience that it's difficult to get any resin to adhere to this material for very long. Neither Polyester (resin and the stuff in Bondo) nor West System epoxy sticks very well, and eventually lifts off the ABS at the edges and fails. Here is a method I used on 1987 Aero panels in 2008. Unfortunately the pics can't be retrieved, but the text tells the tale. ABS and/or PVC cement DOES bond right into the ABS plastic and the resultant repair is strong, as long as you Acetone off the paint if the panel has been repainted in the past.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:31 am
by NB50clonePGO6GOD
I'll see you all at Lowes, time to melt some plastic down permanent fixes only.


Something gone stick to this sob I know steel stik will due to its hardened composure, it hardens like a lightweight plastic rock.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:31 am
by NB50clonePGO6GOD
I'll see you all at Lowes, time to melt some plastic down permanent fixes only.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:01 pm
by 52much
:coolcruise: Above I said how to patch a crack from the back. When the back is done the crack should be aligned. First grind away the paint over the crack about 1" either side of the crack. Grove out the crack with a burr. Next drill 1/8" holes on either sides of the crack, grove across the crack connecting the 1/8" holes. It ends up looking like shoelaces. Mix up resin and put in holes and groves. Then put some mat over the laces. When you sand it down you have to leave a thin layer over the repair. And blend it back in with some bondo type product.

Re: Chipping panel repair?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:27 pm
by NB50clonePGO6GOD
52much wrote::coolcruise: Above I said how to patch a crack from the back. When the back is done the crack should be aligned. First grind away the paint over the crack about 1" either side of the crack. Grove out the crack with a burr. Next drill 1/8" holes on either sides of the crack, grove across the crack connecting the 1/8" holes. It ends up looking like shoelaces. Mix up resin and put in holes and groves. Then put some mat over the laces. When you sand it down you have to leave a thin layer over the repair. And blend it back in with some bondo type product.

Any failures of repairs wheels claims abs doesn't stick stuff well.