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120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:32 pm
by Af16eArnadaHI
Hey wassup everyone need some help on jettin my 120cc stroker cant get it right its a s block 52.6 crank 54mm bore got a 28oko carb jets is 135 55 keli pulley 45grams zx trans w/keli heavy clutch 1500 center 3000 clutch carb needle is set in the middle I do have 30mm oko carb that I havent use yet if I do use what would be the jettin on that also needle settings thanks for your help

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:48 pm
by kingkamehameha
No one can give you a magic formula. You gotta learn to read your motor and tune. I would start with huge jets and work your way down. I would try a 142ish main and you
Might need a bigger pilot

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:51 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

With that much displacement, I'd start with no smaller than a 160 main in the 30 and watch closely; it still may be too small.
Pilot might like 55 or more. Take 10 off the main and 5 off the Pilot if you opt for the 28. This is from my limited experience and short-lived 90cc mini-stroker, so it's conservative.

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:58 pm
by Af16eArnadaHI
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

With that much displacement, I'd start with no smaller than a 160 main in the 30 and watch closely; it still may be too small.
Pilot might like 55 or more. Take 10 off the main and 5 off the Pilot if you opt for the 28. This is from my limited experience and short-lived 90cc mini-stroker, so it's conservative.
Thanks wheelman ill try it

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:07 pm
by kingkamehameha
The theory is that bigger displacement will suck more fuel thru those jets than a 70cc. You might not be too far off with a 140-145 main.

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:42 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Bigger displacement - for a given high RPM at full throttle - draws a higher volume of mixture.
Despite the higher level of vacuum in the carb throat, flow rate through the jet is limited by fluid dynamics fizzikz to a greater degree than the mixture (air) blasting through. Little jets won't keep up enough spray to match the higher air volumes. With respect, bigger bore needs bigger jet or it runs hot and burns.

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:42 am
by Af16eArnadaHI
I decide to go with the 30mm oko an got some bigger main an pilot

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:30 pm
by Trafficjamz
kingkamehameha wrote:The theory is that bigger displacement will suck more fuel thru those jets than a 70cc. You might not be too far off with a 140-145 main.
I have found this to be true if a similar pipe is used.

what pipe are you running on your stoker?

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:11 pm
by Af16eArnadaHI
Trafficjamz wrote:
kingkamehameha wrote:The theory is that bigger displacement will suck more fuel thru those jets than a 70cc. You might not be too far off with a 140-145 main.
I have found this to be true if a similar pipe is used.

what pipe are you running on your stoker?
Whats up trafficjamz im using a pg copy replica pipe...right now also jetted to 62 pilot and 160 main an I can feel that my main is a lil too big correct me if im wrong..btw when carb mani comes hot does that mean anything thanks again

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:56 pm
by Trafficjamz
That main sounds too big to me.

But, a hot manifold usually means your running lean. :confused:

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:17 am
by Af16eArnadaHI
Trafficjamz wrote:That main sounds too big to me.

But, a hot manifold usually means your running lean. :confused:


Ok I dropped the,jets to 60 158 opened the air mix half turn out so now mani is sweatin,now

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:48 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Manifold, schmanifold! What's the CHT say? What does the plug look like? All intakes feel cool running. Don't go by that to determine your jetting.

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:09 am
by Af16eArnadaHI
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Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:11 am
by paulpauly7
put a new one in and do a proper plug chop

Re: 120cc stroker jetting need help

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:17 am
by Af16eArnadaHI
paulpauly7 wrote:put a new one in and do a proper plug chop
That was a new one but I can put another new one