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Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:34 pm
by maxxVE
So it's okay if that hole is open?

I looked at the throttle grip when I had the plastic off. Can I make the adjustment without removing it again? I checked the service manual but it just gives a free play spec of 2-6 mm and doesn't show how to do it.

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:56 am
by swimmingfree
i wood guess no ti will let oil out and may get low in the drive and fry it so a hose wood be best..
swimmingfree wrote:I looked at the throttle grip when I had the plastic off. Can I make the adjustment without removing it again? yes I checked the service manual but it just gives a free play spec of 2-6 mm and doesn't show how to do it. turn the turn buckull and remove the slack out of the cable.....

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:44 pm
by devenex
The scooter will run fine without that breather tube, BUT I would recommend replacing it as having the open hole there does make it easier for dust/dirt/grit to get into the transmission.

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:30 pm
by maxxVE
Update 4/14:

I had a chance to finally get it out and ride yesterday after upjetting the carb and knocking out the 2nd air box tab. Unfortunately it still has the exact same top speed of ~35mph.

I bought a long drill bit and plan to drill a couple holes through the baffles in the exhaust.

USPS lost the package from Taz so we are getting that sorted out.

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:57 pm
by paulpauly7
drilling holes in your muffler WONT make it go faster

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:00 pm
by maxxVE
Dang.. I thought I read something about it on here

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:31 am
by paulpauly7
the stock pipe is good for 50mph if in good condition

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:55 am
by Mystic
it's never a good idea to just drill holes in your exhaust. the engine needs a certain back pressure for scavaging and stuff. don't think it's so important on a 4 stroke but a 2 stroke will lose power

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:10 pm
by bfowler
Your top speed is 35 mph because that's what the stock unrestricted elite is supposed to do. Once you swap out the variator with the performance variator and ramp plate you should see a couple more mph. And then once you change your gears to the 9:1 gears you should see the 45 mph that you were looking for. Changing your tires to some 90/90 will also help you get there. You said you had the parts coming in from taz, did you get that sorted out?

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:17 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

The breather isn't critical. A length of hose keeps it from raining into your gear oil. Just match the outside diameter for a snug fit and it'll be fine. If that's really a stock cable, I wonder if you might have mixed up the oil pump and carb throttle ends? Otherwise, there's an adjustment at the grip that will require you to dismantle the clamp and remove the grip entirely to examine and adjust. I don't recall the stock cable having a second "in-line" adjustment option.

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:20 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Jack, were you Trains420 in a former life? If so, your behavior online has been commendable lately.

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:28 pm
by maxxVE
Thanks everyone for the advice and input! The parts from Taz should be here soon so ill post after I get them installed.

One more question: What size aftermarket kick starter will fit the elite? I'm just looking for the lever and didn't want to spend a ton because I may never use it.

I saw these links on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261098348356?ss ... 1438.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161005278399?ss ... 1438.l2649

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:45 am
by maxxVE
Update 4/22

My package from Taz arrived on Saturday! Thanks again Taz! I had some time to get the variator/ramp plate installed saturday night and I had a chance to ride it around yesterday. Well the good news is it's now up to 43 mph confirmed via GPS. That's on a flat with no tucking or any of that nonsense and I only had about 1/3 of a mile stretch to get there. It felt like if I had a longer stretch it would get moving even a little faster.

Now I'm debating whether or not I want to put the 9:1 gears in. It's pretty darn quick up to 25mph so I think I could give some of that up to get another 5 or 6 mph. We'll see...

Thanks again for all the help!

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:40 pm
by Bman5000
i pm'd you i am looking to do the same setup! if u took pics u should do a build thread! who is this "taz" u speak of? i need to order somke parts from him or it or whatev...

:smile:

Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:16 pm
by bfowler
Bman5000 wrote:i pm'd you i am looking to do the same setup! if u took pics u should do a build thread! who is this "taz" u speak of? i need to order somke parts from him or it or whatev...

:smile:
Taz is forum member tazland001 and he sells things on ebay through the name chopchop 123. Heres a link so his ebay store http://stores.ebay.com/alluneed-scooter ... 34.c0.m322