1994 Elite SR. Complete rebuild help?

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:47 pm

mopedman wrote:you can get a R1 for 89.00 on ebay, thats what i just payed for the one i bought

there is one in the "buy/sell" section of this site right now for 60

cf_z · Post by **cf_z** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:11 pm

Dac wrote:
mopedman wrote:you can get a R1 for 89.00 on ebay, thats what i just payed for the one i bought
there is one in the "buy/sell" section of this site right now for 60

i might just snagg that...

but earlier you sayd that the rq is great for takeoff, good at midrange and ok at top end. so does that just mean that above (what is 'top end' on these) what mph it will just start to slow? can that be overcome by the big bore when i get it?

also, can gears be done before the bore kit? or should i just stop being stuipd and do it all at once

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Dac · Post by **Dac** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:15 pm

what do you want more?
do you want to have better 5-35mph or better 55+

the R1 is great for low range, its a good 72cc pipe from what i read.

I really say call up VTCycles and see what they sugest for a pipe.

but yeah, just do gears at the same time as the bore kit. You can do it before the bore kit, but if you are going 7:1 gears. 7:1 on a stock bike would be slow on take off.

cf_z · Post by **cf_z** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:56 pm

Dac wrote:what do you want more?
do you want to have better 5-35mph or better 55+

why cant i just have it all???

the R1 is great for low range, its a good 72cc pipe from what i read..

My computer is being really slow, but i searched here and on gooogle for reviews on that pipe and couldnt find it. i think i'll just have to get used to his search function on this site.

im gonna make that guy an offer if he can get me a little better picture. from the picture it doesnt look like the 'r1' i see on ebay.

burnt_toast · Post by **burnt_toast** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:19 pm

why cant i just have it all???

because newbs need to learn first

, once u get it down you can have it all

cf_z · Post by **cf_z** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:25 am

well. the r1 has been payed for

so look out for the noob haha.

cf_z · Post by **cf_z** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:11 pm

i got into pulling the motor apart today and came across some problems/questions.

first off, what in the world is this? and is this how it goes together (it fell out and scattered, so i just placed them where i thought they went)

my guess is it is some sort of cintrifugal clutch for the belt? but either way the little plastic peices all have flat spots in them, and one is split all the way to the metal.

also, does this require a special tool to get off? the guy i work for said its a common motorcycle tool and it threads in and then pushes on the crank. sounds right, but is there any way to get around it?

and inside this back case is where the gears that i will be buying go right? I couldnt get it off, i took out all 5 bolts and it still wouldnt come off. i didnt want to pry it incase i was doing something wrong.

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:23 pm

to your first question, that is a variator, . the things inside it are called rollers. When the motor revs up the rollers go out, pushing the back plate out. Making the hole thing move. the belt now rides higher on it giving you good top end.
Rollers are something you need. Flat Spots will cause really bad take off.

Second question, i have no clue.

third question. Mine came off easy, but i know sometimes its hard to beak the sell. Just fight it some.
I would just work on the plate and not fight the axle.

cf_z · Post by **cf_z** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:19 pm

okay so the rollers need to be replaced.

all the stuff i need (rollers, crank bearings, gaskets, ect) can be gotten from the Honda dealer? like the car honda dealer or does it have to be a moped/atv/bike dealer?

second question: Come on! i need that answer lol. how did you get yours off? that is all thats left from me getting the crank/rod out and im ancious!:D

i will work on the case tomorrow. But that is where the gears go right?

also, anyone got a picture of a White elite?

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:42 pm

You will prob need a puller, something like this. http://store.chromeauto.com/at3041.html

stillspeeding · Post by **stillspeeding** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:33 am

At least you ask alot of questions, its better to learn the hard way, there are so many engine/ trans combo's...

cf_z · Post by **cf_z** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:56 pm

well i got the trans case out and cleaned it all up and got the brakes to stop sticking.

but that d*** thing on the crankshaft is still my main problem.

cf_z · Post by **cf_z** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:27 pm

apparently this is a 'bad crankshaft bearing"

pretty much what i expected.

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:33 pm

mini stoker time?
correct me if im wrong but i believe a mini stroker crank is cheaper then a stock one.

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:35 pm

http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6039
or you could pick up this cheap stock crank.